Sunday, November 2, 2008

Troubles at Sea

G'day to All ,

We can often think that the dream of a circumnavigation is sailing from one perfect sunset into the next. However, those that have actually embarked and had the privilege to do so often tell a very different story. The challenges faced can be unlike any ever experienced on land. The test of endurance stretches us beyond the realm of normalcy. For those who have endured, these are the experiences that mould us.

Zac has been and is going through a challenging time out there. A time that he will surely remember for a long time.

It was Saturday and Toby and Jessie had back-to-back soccer games early. The weather here was unusually stormy with periodic heavy rain, lightening and thunder. I couldn't help thinking of Zac out there in the middle of the Indian Ocean and the squalls he has been facing recently. Jessie's game was interrupted by the weather and was supposed to resume but half of the opposing team had gone home and so had a victory by default. Then Toby's team was in the middle of a great game that they won 3:1, taking them to the top of their league, when my cell phone rang. I recognized Zac's number and realizing that it was after midnight where he was I knew that this was going to demand my full attention. There was no time for small talk as Zac informed me of his current dilemma. The forestay that goes from the top of the mast to the bow (pointed end of yacht) had come adrift from the chain plate on the bow. His conditions 8-10 ft confused swells and 20 knots of wind and building. I was thankful that we had decided to put the cutter stay in because it's presence obviously saved the rig. I told him to set both spinnaker halyards (lines that go to the top of mast that are used to pull up spinnaker) to take up the load and tie the forestay off to stop it flailing around in the conditions . Unfortunately, the phone connection was not that good and we both found ourselves having to repeat several times before actually understanding each other. Knowing he was fatigued and the task at hand was serious I told him to check his harness and be careful . From the hours of midnight to 3:00 am he wrestled with his situation. What made this all the more awkward was the fact that he was unable to furl his Genoa. It was almost as if the soccer game didn't matter as I wrestled in my mind knowing Zac was out there being challenged by the elements and a serious situation that had not yet been remedied. I hoped that my advice was taken (and heard!) through our bad connection . Going on deck can be challenging at the best of times. Trying to undertake these tasks in the conditions Zac was in are very dangerous. As I hung up with Zac I was sobered by his daunting task at hand. I wanted him to stabilize the situation so he could analyze it and make a more permanent fix during day light hours. Prayer requests went out as we waited to hear and our anxiety went up a notch . The ensuing hours seemed an eternity. Then the phone rang. The situation had been stabilized but not before he had nearly fallen overboard twice (yes, he was harnessed), and the stay with Genoa had caught an unusual gust of wind that sent it flying out from the vessel only to come careening back through the life lines narrowly missing him as he jumped out of it's way.

The following day Zac took hold of his situation and we discussed a remedy. I consulted with some of the rigging experts that I know that were in agreement with our solution to the problem . Ordinarily Zac would have to take off the furling drum to get to the turnbuckle. Knowing that this would be quite a task and would more than likely end up with part of the furling system in the water we decided to loosen the main sheet aft stay and aft lowers whilst keeping tension on the spinnaker halyards to move the top of the mast forward. He did this and managed to get a couple of shackles to hold the stay to the chain plate. He used seizing wire to ensure that the shackles would not work loose and then he re-tuned the rig. He is currently making 6.5-7 knots under reefed main with spinnaker halyards still acting as stays. If conditions subside, Zac will consider taking apart the necessary portion of the furling system to get to the turn buckle to loosen it so he will be able to get the pin in, to hold the stay to the chain plate. Big thanks to all those who were praying. Please continue to do so.

I want to thank every one who turned up, sponsored and supported last Sunday's celebration fund raiser for Zac. Through the silent auction, tickets sold and the Odyssey cruise we raised almost $6,000. As Zac approaches this halfway mark, this was necessary to offset some of the debt we have incurred. It was wonderful to meet some of the Zac Pac in person. Zac is truly amazed knowing how much you care for him.
Thank you!

As I prepare to fly out to hook up with Zac, I would appreciate your prayers. There is much work that needs to be done and little time to do it. His passage from Mauritius to Durban is known for its challenges not to mention the passage from Durban to Cape Town.



Cheers,

Laurence

70 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zac is so fortunate to have a knowledgable father and a steady head on his shoulders. It sounds like he is VERY good under pressure and willing to work within his limits. You are all in our prayers. Thank you for keeping us updated in these challenging times. ZAC we are VERY proud of you!!!

Lori Love

November 2, 2008 at 7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, I hope things have calmed down a bit. Thought something was up when there wasn't a post since Thursday...
Keep safe and know you are in our Father's hand and in all of our prayers.
~Jessica from Canada

November 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM  
Blogger mike3k said...

I'll be praying for Zac.

November 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM  
Blogger bakergirls said...

Laurence you are such an expert and it is wonderful that you can advise Zac on so many levels of his voyage. That has got to be comforting to him. We are continuing to pray for Zac's safety and for God's wisdom and guidance.
The Baker Family

November 2, 2008 at 8:52 PM  
Blogger Ehvee said...

*shudder* Reading this created images like the most tense part of a movie! I've been thinking about him all day and checking here several times... I'm glad he's stabilized now.

I know so little about the sail/rigging terminology you're using here... can you suggest a web page where I could look up some of the terms and skills that you're talking about?

Will you be going to Mauritius or Durban?

November 2, 2008 at 9:19 PM  
Blogger Uncle Hectic said...

Whoa, that's scary. I'm can't tell you how impressed I am with not only Zac's sailing abilities, but his inherent mechanical reasoning skills. Losing the forestay in the middle of the night, with 8-10 foot seas is not something many people could remedy, but Zac out there all by himself, at only 16, managed to save the rig, and even get it re-tuned...he's truly inspiring.

November 2, 2008 at 9:31 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Hi There Zac and Team Sunderland!!

Hang tough Zac! Sounds like another great chapter for the book. What a blessing not to have lost the whole rig. Lots of prayers being said for you young man! And lots being answered too. Don't forget to thank the Man upstairs for your blessings...

Laurence and Marianne... may you be granted an extra portion of peace and assurance that can only come from above! Be safe traveling out to meet Zac.

Just WOW!!!! You Rock!!
Blessings,
Bob in OKC

November 2, 2008 at 9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings from Durban - Gateway to the Kingdom of the Zulu !!

Sound amazing - and if it is what I read he's only 16.
Well we will welcome you in our friendly city and offer you a comfortable "stable" bed during your stay.
Drop us a line on gibela@gibela.co.za or contact us on 031 - 303 6291
The Gibela Backpackers Team !!!

November 2, 2008 at 9:45 PM  
Blogger jlh said...

Laurence,
Thank you so much for your post. It was wonderful meeting you at the fund raiser. What an amazing family Zac has. And so articulate! I'm reading a real life drama that I just can't put down. A true page-turner! I'm so very grateful he has you to turn to for help in such stressful situations. I knew something must be up when we didn't hear anything for awhile. I always worry.

Zac, hang in there. You are so clear headed when problems arise.
Wise and calm beyond your years.
I hope things settle down soon and that you can take care of the things that need to be done.
Please remember to eat and stay hydrated! You need to stay healthy! Our prayers for your safety continue.

Laurence, I'll absolutely pray for travel mercies. I'm so glad you'll be there to help! What day do you leave for Mauritius?

Blessings to you all,
Jennifer and Ben
Sherman Oaks, CA

November 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM  
Blogger Sailing Vessel Serenity NOW said...

What incredible challenges Zac has and will continue to endure. I know that the good Lord will be watching down on him and keeping him safe. My husband and I have a 36 Catalina and were in Howlands Landing right before Zac left Catalina. Our good friend "Harbor John" said that we missed Zac's farewell by one day. We continue to look forward to following Zacs safe journey and welcoming him back to the "good old USA". May God speed.

Dennis & Sue
San Clemente, Ca.

November 2, 2008 at 10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, thank you Laurence for getting us up to date with what's been going on.One tries to stay positive but I was getting pretty twitchy I have to say!
I totally understand what you were saying about being at important soccer matches and then ...life changed in an instant.I'm not sure how one keeps dealing with these moments but you certainly are. Well, I guess I do know....a moment at a time,eh. Trusting.
So your son amazes us all, once again.
Zac...soooo glad to hear that you are safe.
Praying.

UK friend

November 3, 2008 at 12:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LH, I told my lil guy Conan about the your situation. Hang tough when your hardest hit. Not sure if anyone has seen the movie RUDY but just imagine everyone pulling for yah!
RUDY!
RUDY!
RUDY!

Don't Quit
When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you're trudging seems all up hill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life is queer with its twists and turns,
As everyone of us sometimes learns,
And many a failure turns about
When he might have won had he stuck it out;
Don't give up, though the pace seems slow -
You might succeed with another blow.

Often the goal is nearer than
It seems to a faint and faltering man,
Often the struggler has given up
When he might have captured the victor's cup.
And he learned too late, when the night slipped down,
How close he was to the golden crown.

Success is failure turned inside out -
The silver tint of the clouds of doubt -
And you never can tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems afar;
So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit -
It's when things seem worst that you mustn't quit.

- Unknown -

November 3, 2008 at 12:36 AM  
Blogger Brad McEachern said...

Wow Zac, Loosing the forestay with a wild lose sail is not fun with a full crew of grown sailors. Good for you for getting it under control! Most people would be freaking if just off the dock, let alone in the middle of the ocean. I hope you get 12 knots and a sunny break soon. Your the man.
Brad Nanaimo, Canada.

November 3, 2008 at 1:06 AM  
Blogger Anita said...

Hang in there Zac!!
Laurence, thanks for the update, praise God you have such a gift of sailing knowledge!
Blowing the forestay in 5 knots of wind would freak most people put (including me) but looks like once again Zac was able to tackle the situation head on! I am grateful to know that he wears his harness!

Prayers be with all of you
Anita
Waterloo NY

November 3, 2008 at 1:51 AM  
Blogger davejb851 said...

Frankly, (and I don't mean this in a negative way), I'm getting tired of careening from one disaster to the next. This old man with two teenagers of my own simple gets exhausted as I ride along with Zac as he performs one save after another.
Please....Oh pretty please can't we have one extended period where the seas are calm, the wind is quartering at 10 knots, the fresh caught fish in on the BBQ, and Zac is sitting with tiller in hand watching the orange southern sun set over a calm ideallic white puffy cloud set.
Truly it's going to make an incredible story folks.

November 3, 2008 at 4:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahhhhhhh.......don't fall over board, please, Zac!I'm still praying for you.

@Davejb851. You can pray that that will happen, but I have a feeling that it won't for a while. Maybe when he is closer to home and can see it? Who knows.

November 3, 2008 at 4:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As many of us will never do more than light recreational sailing, it is hard to imagine the toll that is taken on a vessel by being under sail 24 hours a day for months. But I am sure you all knew from the start that this journey could not be accomplished without some harrowing moments. I can't think of much that would be more terrifying than the possibility of completely losing rigging in the middle of the ocean, especially with Zac's engine being so temperamental.

I pray that God will continue to hold our young adventurer in the palm of His hand, as "even the wind and waves obey Him."

Hopefully you will not have to endure too many more of these moments, lest Mom and Dad be completely gray-headed by the time Zac makes it home!

Zac, you are a very special and gifted young man to undertake this adventure. God will use this experience, whatever the eventual outcome, to mold your character and test your faith. I pray that you will learn to truly trust Him, to seek His leading in your life, and to do all for His glory.

Laurence and Marianne, you are truly special and gifted parents, to provide such continual support and encouragement to your son in his amazing quest! I can't imagine the stress you must endure during these difficult times. Just remember that the most frequent command in Scripture is, in various forms, "Do not be afraid."

Thanks, all, for keeping us posted. Obviously, you have many people out here who care. May God bless you all greatly!

Don
Easley, SC

November 3, 2008 at 6:52 AM  
Blogger Douglas Pistone said...

Hello Zac, Laurence, & Zac Pac,

I sometime worry when I don't hear anything for a few day. Jolanta just asked me yesterday "How's Zac Doing". I gave her the latest news I had read from the last blog entry and said "He's in some rough seas so he didn't write the last few days". Boy was that the understatement of the year.

We really must thank the man upstairs knowing that everything went well through these tough times that Zac endured. Great job Laurence with the advise and keeping your cool during those tough times. It's a good thing you both decided to put the cutter stay in, this obviously saved the rig. To loose the forestay in 20 knots of wind and save the entire rigging was a miracle. It's great that Zac realized the stay with Genoa came loose and didn't hit him. He went through some rough and challenging times during the night not to mention almost falling overboard twice.

It's a bad time to say this but it will make for an interesting book or movie. Hopefully some of this was filmed, if so everyone watching will really know how dangerous this time really was. Great job Zac for hold your composure during this trying time. You did an awesome job. Thanks Laurence for thinking on the fly and helping your son to the best of your abilities as you spoke with Zac while on the soccer field.

It was nice to here the LA Gathering went well. Thanks for the report and appreciation. The next time let's see if we can do much better. Since Zac is almost half way around another LA Gathering might be in order sometime in the future. You can count on me being there helping physically and financially as well.

@ Laurence, You might even consider writing a book based on the parents perspective. Your writing skills are riveting and I enjoy reading your entries. You keep us on the edge of our seats. Unfortunately most of the time it comes with bad news but what a descriptive story you write. May your passage be safe and hopefully uneventful. Give Zac a great big hug from all of us. He's still sailing and following his dream.

Sail On,
Douglas Pistone
MDR, California

November 3, 2008 at 6:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ZAC-
Hang in there dude....Mauritius will have everything you need to fix up Intrepid...including your Dad's hand and the new boom. Wow, the gibela backpackers, it seems, have become zacpac'ers. Sounds like Durban will be fun and relaxing.
Sail on. Be safe. We're all thinking and praying for you.
Kodiak Mike

November 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM  
Blogger Mona said...

Laurence,
Another nail biter read. Thanks for updating us on Zac's situation. He truly is one amazing young man!
Prayers for your safe travel.

Zac,
What a wild ride you are having. Are you still on schedule to arrive in Mauritius around Nov.9th?
Stay safe and keep that harness on.
Prayers going to you daily.
Mona
Tucson, AZ

November 3, 2008 at 7:26 AM  
Blogger Mouse on a Motorcycle said...

Wow, I'm simply speechless.

These are the times that try men's souls.

In case it wasn't obvious, it would seem that the 16 year old youth that left last summer is now a 16 year old man. A man of strength and ability, and a Man of G-d.

Obviously, I can't offer any specific advice on Zac's situation, beyond what I've said before about repairs. Remember to be aware of everything, but do one thing at a time. When the most important thing is done, then move on to the next thing. Priorities can be fluid, but they are vital, especially in a triage situation like your emergency.

Praying more than daily this week
Numbers 6:24-26
Mouse in Whittier
www.myspace.com/mouseonamotorcycle

November 3, 2008 at 7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Zac

Stay strong and believe in yourself. You are a role model for us all Keep safe and know that you are in our prayers.

November 3, 2008 at 7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my… holding my breath right now and hoping that all is well with Zac. Thank goodness for his and his family’s strength of character, knowledge, physical endurance, and faith. Keeping you each and all in my prayers as always. Peace, Your Oklahoma Well-Wisher

November 3, 2008 at 8:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Zac and all,

I have been gone for a while, caring for my ill mother and now just catching up with Intrepid's adventure.
This morning, I was on the edge of my seat reading the last post of Zac's most recent encounter at sea. It never seems to amaze me how well you handle things with the assistance of a cell phone.

It seems the age of the boat is being seriously challenged by mother nature; but our young man, now just shy of turning 17, is handling it well.

Laurence, I am sure that you are looking forward to seeing your son and repairing and preparing Intrepid for the next leg.

Our prayers go out to you and your family.

Bill and Linda
Camarillo, Ca

November 3, 2008 at 8:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us all pray for this young man's safe passage.
God Bless

November 3, 2008 at 8:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us all pray for this young man's safe passage.
God Bless

November 3, 2008 at 8:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laurence -
Your post overwhelmed me. However, Zac's steadfastness proved itself as he worked to stabilize his situation with your skilled assistance.

May God continue to bless you all, and as Laurence travels to Mautitus. There is lots of work to do, but be sure to have some fun.

As for now, I pray for safe entry to Mauritus for Zac.

November 3, 2008 at 8:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Laurence, Marianne and family,

It appears from your writing that God has kept his eye on Zac once again in assisting with the stabilization process and keeping him on deck all the while.

Please know, however, that the Rosary has been recited for Zac's safety and the good ship Intrepid from us here in Boise this morning.

We will continue to pray on a daily basis and include in our intentions the safety of your long trip to Mauritius. God be with you all.

Maureen
Boise

November 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O God, our heavenly Father, whose glory fills the whole creation, and whose presence we find wherever we go; preserve those who travel -- in particular Zac Sunderland; surround them with your loving care; protect them from every danger; and bring them in safety to their journey's end; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

November 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Zac,
Wishing you all the best! These trials and tribulations you are enduring, and successfully overcoming, will be carried with you your entire life. You are an "old soul" and your experiences now will serve you well in your future, whatever you choose to pursue.
Thinking good thoughts for your safe passage!

Jan from D.C.

November 3, 2008 at 8:40 AM  
Blogger johnnyBgood said...

zac and the entire sunderland family are in our prayers. have a safe journey, laurence.
john baker/w hollywood/ca/USofA
jbaker1226@aol.com

November 3, 2008 at 8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Praise GOD!
He listens to all our prayers.
Hang in there Zachary!
xoxo
T, D and R Ziegler

November 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just got this in my inbox and thought it related to you these last few days.

Troubles are not sent to bother us but to better us.

God Bless!

November 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I now know that when a day passes without a post to the blog, I should be on my knees praying. Oh Sunderlands, how you must have agonized but I do hope that God gave you peace during this time.

Laurence, I will always be praying for your clearness of mind during such a challenge so that you can come up with a plan and draw in your resources all the while being overwhelmed with concern for your son. I just always remember all of the challenges Paul had at sea and how the Lord used that.

Always praying for you all - Kathy Bend, OR

November 3, 2008 at 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zac,

hang in there. You are making good progress. Mauritius is coming closer every day and with your dad's advice and your strength and ability, you will sail Intrepid to Port Louis, where you can treat her well for carrying you half way around the world.

Godspeed
Randolf

November 3, 2008 at 10:05 AM  
Blogger SuzyQ said...

Dear Zac and family,
We have been following your journey amazed at your courage and strength. As I read this blog I was struck with the blessing you are to your family and what the mark that, not only you are making in your life, but in the lives of your siblings, parents, friends and people all over the world! Far beyond what you can even imagine! Our family of seven are praying for you and your safety. We are homeschooling ourselves and have time to check in on you regularly.
Not knowing anything about sailing I was amazed at your Father's blog! :)
God bless you and your family as you continue on your journey.
Jeremiah 29:11
The Mitchells in Georgia, USA

November 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow,nice emergency "fix" while underway!
Straight Wakes!
Mike s.

November 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Well Zac Pac,

As today is Monday, I promised you I would tell you what Ben Franklin said.

BEER is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

You can sport this on the front of the beautiful hooded sweatshirt from KODIAK ISLAND BREWING CO donated by Kodiak Mike and on auction on Zac's Auction this week.

Also your chance to bid on a digital fine art watercolor reproduction of Zac aboard Intrepid donated by Jasmine Wevers.

Visit
http://www.barstools4u.com

to see this week's offerings and get a chance to get a great Holiday gift, miss the crowds at the store and help Zac, all at the same time.

Any questions, drop me an email.

Thanks for you support. I could not do this without your interest and help.

Bill Mann
bill@barstools4u.com

November 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it seems that the broken boom may have been a blessing in disguise. I'm guessing the main was not up and that may have saved the rig. May good fortune and good times be with you throughout your journey.

-Mateo R

November 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM  
Blogger Daveh said...

I'll just say this...

Thank GOD he wasn't beating upwind with the main, the forestay for the staysull would have never held the load being it’s likely 2/3rds up the mast. Running downwind loaded up the aft stay, so at that point, the rig was salvaged, as was quite a bit more…

Laurence / Marianne – I have a pair of hydraulic bolt cutters from my Beneteau 50 that I could ship out to you guys. My 50’ has ¾ SS shrouds and stays, so they’re a necessary piece of safely equipement, but I don’t need them for a while.

Let me know and I’ll FedEx them out in time for your trip to Mauritaus, or I can drop ship them to Durban…. Just let me know.. Ditching the rig, as you guys know is very important in rough seas and these hydraulic cutters cut through SS like butter, amazing…

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 1:41 PM  
Blogger Becky said...

Well, I had to google 'parts of a sailing boat,' so I could see what you were talking about. Amazing that the 'crew' of the Intrepid was able to secure all for now, even though perhaps temporarily. This is one time that my redneck lingo makes sense~~When Zac cried 'All hands on deck!'- it 'doesn't amount to a hill 'o beans, until he gets there.

Technology is valuable for safety, yet no matter how much technology has changed, the seas have remained the same as they have been for millions of years. A world of wind and water where no two seconds are the same.

I hope you get a 'lull' in the confused seas Zac, so you can get some much needed rest and nutrition.

You're almost there....

Nagaa (Peace)
Becky in Colorado

November 3, 2008 at 2:09 PM  
Blogger Daryl said...

I was able to understand most of this, especially the danger. I will continue to pray for Zac. Thank you for taking the time to write this, Lawrence.

from Iowa

November 3, 2008 at 2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laurence,
Thank you for taking the time out from your busy schedule to keep us informed on Zac's challenging journey. We continue to pray for you and your family.

Zac,
You have been doing an outstanding job with your ability to handle difficult situations, single-handedly, with the expert guidance of your dad and others. You have proven yourself to be a person of great stamina and maturity.

We pray that our Heavenly Father and your guardian angels will continue to keep you safe and guide you through difficult times. Stay strong and keep well harnessed.

Godspeed!

Dick & Gin
Upland

November 3, 2008 at 2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zac, may your angels continue to keep pace with Intrepid thru these next days on your way to Marituis.

However much I may admire the British chap, or anyone, for attempting a circumnav, Zac is truly doing it without a net - no chase boat, floating repair shop and or bank following him.

But he has something much more valuable - a good head in emergencies, strength of character, and an awesome support network in faith.

You go Zac - all is and will be well!

Karyn

November 3, 2008 at 4:46 PM  
Blogger Diane Wilkinson said...

I knew something was wrong when we missed posts for a few days. I was sitting on the edge of my chair reading about this situation. My prayer is for God to give him strength, wisdom and protection. I am praying for Zac and his family.

November 3, 2008 at 5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

& the point of gambling a 16 year old's life against mother natures fury is____________________?

Seriously, I would be interested to know.

Is it really great parenting to encourage a 16yo to fight the biggest forces known to man or is it negligence?

November 3, 2008 at 6:02 PM  
Blogger Daveh said...

@ Perlexed…

16 Year Olds fought in WWI

16 Year Olds fought in WWII

16 Year Olds fought in Korea, Vietnam and every life threatening battle in history, prior to Iraq

16 Year Olds can vote in 2 years

16 Year Olds drive, without their parents

16 Year Olds live in cities in AMERICA much more dangerous than THE OCEAN…

While I understand your question, because you are obviously a good person, of good heart, of good conscience… I would just encourage you to think a bit outside of the sleepy and calm life that some live and see a wider and broader view…

I can tell you that the Sunderland’s are a rear a great people, who labored Zac’s goal and labor more every day 7x24 more than we sitting here in our comfortable homes, with our children can possibly understand.

I am a world sailor, yet have not solo-circumnavigated, but if my son, 11 years old today, said he wanted to do this at 16, I would do my VERY VERY best to talk him out of it, but if he persisted, then I would do my VERY VERY best to prepare him and do EVERYTHING I can to help him meet his dream!

Kind Regards,

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 6:12 PM  
Blogger Daveh said...

@ Perlexed…

16 Year Olds fought in WWI

16 Year Olds fought in WWII

16 Year Olds fought in Korea, Vietnam and every life threatening battle in history, prior to Iraq

16 Year Olds can vote in 2 years

16 Year Olds drive, without their parents

16 Year Olds live in cities in AMERICA much more dangerous than THE OCEAN…

While I understand your question, because you are obviously a good person, of good heart, of good conscience… I would just encourage you to think a bit outside of the sleepy and calm life that some live and see a wider and broader view…

I can tell you that the Sunderland’s are a rear a great people, who labored Zac’s goal and labor more every day 7x24 more than we sitting here in our comfortable homes, with our children can possibly understand.

I am a world sailor, yet have not solo-circumnavigated, but if my son, 11 years old today, said he wanted to do this at 16, I would do my VERY VERY best to talk him out of it, but if he persisted, then I would do my VERY VERY best to prepare him and do EVERYTHING I can to help him meet his dream!

Kind Regards,

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 6:12 PM  
Blogger Daveh said...

That was supposed to say;

"the Sunderland's are a RARE and great people..."

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 6:14 PM  
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November 3, 2008 at 7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laurence

Prayers will continue. I wish I could say that I read your post without a catch in my breath, a shot of adrenalin to my stomach, and goose bumps everywhere.

Congratulations to you and your queen for having raised such a rock of a man, this Zac. He must not have a nerve in his body! He just keeps on dealing with whatever trick or trap comes his way without a lot of todo. Somehow, I feel that it's in order to thank you for your expertise, guidance, and support of his adventure. Are we Zac Packers involved here or what?

I sincerely hope that your time with your young man in Mautitius is everything you hope it to be, both with regards to Intrepid and to Zac. Some of us are doing more than enjoying his adventure vicariously. We are somehow living it through this blog. When Zac suffers, we suffer ... yeah, I know it's not the same, but Zac has become a hero and role model that transcends national, generational, and gender barriers.

Godspeed,
The Croaker

November 3, 2008 at 8:14 PM  
Blogger Daveh said...

If you saw the post that really berated Zac and the Sunderalnd’s (now deleted) it was supposedly from a 100ton captain… Maybe it was, if it was, I’m shocked…

I too have at least 30,000 miles alone, probably 50,000 to 60,000 miles if I calculate my non-solo journeys and the many miles I enjoyed with my dad at the helm, just can’t tell you how much that means to me today… seeing him, giving me small tasks and responsibilities at 5,6,7,10,11, etc… It made me largely what I am today, and I love him for it…

Sooooooooo…. I question the negativity of the poster that claims such passage experience… A few drinks at a port bar would induce the truth serum that would reveal his true soul and conscience, one that I suspect is much darker than even he knows… Introspection…

Yes the sea is relentless…. But I say as I’ve said from June of 2008, if my son, 11 today, persisted that he wanted to do such a voyage, I would fight him, vehemently, yet if he persisted in his dream, as much as I would hate it, I would support it with all might, both intellectual and financial, which is reasonably substantial in both perspectives…

Would I worry about him????? Oh man, not enough space for that…………

Clearly, there are risks, huge risks in this adventure… You guys have all seen my post over the last ½ year… You know I’m not some charlatan, nor a couch sailor…

The Sunderland’s and I exchange eMails often… I have donated and will donate thousands of dollars in gear, and want not credit for it, I just want to see Zac complete his goal, and his family embrace him…

Yes, I worry, a lot, trust me, there are many of my thoughts and ideas that never hit this blog, and go only to Marianne and Laurence because I see their challenge, love and passion or Zac’s goal and journey…

I’ve been quite on the blog because I felt I was too visible, and taking away from Zac, Laurence, and Marianne, whom all 3 I admire…

I’ve even tried to not describe much of his challenges… Because I received negative and almost hate-eMails, shockingly, from some… Really sad, made me sad… but such is life…

With all that noise aside, I would like to express my extreme admiration for Zac, Laurence, Marianne, and many others, whom I’ve never met, but feel a kinship, all because of Zac and his Quest for an amazing goal…

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Zac,

Good to hear from you and know that your notes are wonderful. The Team Zac is wonderful to have together. Trust that weather hold and that all continues to go well. Please keep that rope around you so you do not fall in.

Know you are to young to vote, but trust everyone will VOTE.

Bill
Minneapolis

November 3, 2008 at 8:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too was getting concerned when a few days had passed with out a post..poor Bill got an e-mail from me asking if he had any news..he told me to hang on and that we should be hearing something soon as he was sure the Sunderlands were busy getting ready for the trip..that held me for a while but as soon as i saw the post "trouble at Sea" my stomach did a flip flop and i got this hot flash come over me.
Thank God Zac's ok. Sunderlands, you all are in my thoughts and prayers all the time.
Stay Safe Zac & keep dry if you can..im sending you something for your birthday that may help that but it still may be a little to warm.. maybe not?
take care Capt...see you in MDR soon
Laura

November 3, 2008 at 8:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have just read the post of "Perplexed". I find it strange to dislike a person that I don't know, but there it is.

I fully suscribe to and endorse the rebuttal by daveh. I can't add anything to that except to note that most worthwhile things have been accomplished by risk takers who can measure themselves against the risks. Those who would hide under their beds at the sign of rain are a burden to society. Zac Sunderland, and his mein, will make a difference somewhere someday. "Perplexed" will remain just that. You are what you are.

I admire daveh's tact, diplomancy, and ability to cite the facts. I'm too torqued right now to even try.

The Croaker

November 3, 2008 at 8:33 PM  
Blogger Daveh said...

@ The Croaker...

Thanks... You are sooo right... Risk vs. Reward... This is life...

Sit on the couch and watch Oprah, or get out and do SOMETHING, be it raise great children, invent something, or LIVE a DREAM!!!!

I have risked everything I own many times as an investor for startup companies and my own companies as an entrepreneur…

I have risked my life and that of my children, calculated decisions mind you, but… About passages, crossing the Gulf Stream, etc… But I thought through all of the risks, prepared myself as much as I could and ventured out… My children LOVE me for it, almost 14 and 12, want to do it again this spring-summer, and we will….

We’d all be living Europe with America un-discovered, without those willing to take risks… Which is another story on this election eve that we won’t muddy the waters with…

Regards,

Daveh & Skipper

November 3, 2008 at 9:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daveh & Croaker, I concur. At the end of the day, or the end of your life, the regrets are always for the things NOT done, and the risks NOT taken.

I do not support foolhardiness, but to live a dream is to truly LIVE, to stay in your comfortable cocoon is to merely exist.

Personally, I prefer to LIVE!

I can say that Zac and his family do also. Bless you all!

Karyn

November 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daveh,
Nice note about your old fella giving u tasks and keepin an eye on U at the same time. -And now you're passing it on.
I just thought it was a very kool post.
I never expect any circumnavigation to be easy. Weather gets nasty, the boat gets fatigued, and God knows stuff breaks, but I gotta a lot faith in Zac. Yeah I'm sure he will have very bad days and very great days. He will be tested but he will get through it.
Hang tough Lil Buddy!

November 3, 2008 at 10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Troubles" post and following comments have me in tears and feeling many mixed emotions -- compassion for L. and M.A. for the parental anxiety they must be enduring, admiration for Zac for his AMAZING ability to keep on keeping on, and a bit sad about the negative responses posted. Although the ensuing discussion has been extremely thought-provoking and inspirational, too!

Many thanks to Daveh for posts which express support, advice, encouragement, and wisdom without passing judgment. Please continue to post your thoughts and knowledge of sailing for those of us landlubbers in the Midwest trying to google "parts of a sailboat" to understand Zac's challenge.

I'm off to VOTE ... Blessings to All! CindyinCincy

November 4, 2008 at 5:17 AM  
Blogger Douglas Pistone said...

Hello Daveh,

Nicely done. I'm glad you had so much energy to respond to the comments from perplexed.

I wanted to thank you for all your past comments, information, explanations, and help placing seaman's terms into words that people here can understand. This blog wouldn't be the same without you.

I have noticed every time Zac goes through some challenging times this is when these negative comments usually start flaring up. I know you have received criticisms here before and possibly some hate email. I guess this is the price you pay for giving constructive advise or even knowledgeable sailing advise. I have also received a few emails that made me a little sad. No worries, I just ignore them.

I believe if we don't react to these negative comments people end up going to some other blog. They are looking for confrontations and will stay around if they receive it. Some people might make negative comments because they don't understand sailing and the different world sailors live in. People outside of sailing just can't grasp many of the concepts that sailors live with, deal with, and mostly enjoy every time they go out on a long or difficult journey. As we know any smooth day sailing could turn challenging depending on the weather. Unfortunately weather is something no human can control. All we can do is listen to weather reports before we head out. Unfortunately Zac doesn't have this option.

I remember the first time I entered a sailboat and went on my first coastal sail. We stayed less than 3 miles from shore. I was on board with four other experienced sailors. The first thing that took me by complete shock and surprise was I didn't understand 75 percent of what they were talking about. They all spoke English but not the English I understood. I like to call it Sailing English, almost sounds like another language with words like and, the, water, and wave to name a few of the words that I did understand.

Sailing is a different world and most people will never get it no matter how hard you try and explain it. Hopefully this is why we have people placing concerned or negative comment sometimes. Daveh, I loved your explanation of 16 year old kids going to war throughout our history. Here again you sometimes have to explain things in ways others can understand. You did a great job with that one.

Well, hopefully Zac's rigging (big pieces of metal going skyward) is holding up and all is fine. Hopefully the ocean will calm down and we'll all hear from Zac again very soon.

Thanks Daveh,
Sail On Zac,
Douglas Pistone
MDR, California

November 4, 2008 at 7:03 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

There might be a quick solution that I used on my boat once. I attached a halyard to the furling drum (I'm assuming it's a CDI or Harken?) and hoisted it and the foil to expose the turnbuckle. Perhaps Zac can either loosen the turnbuckle taking care it doesn't come apart or do what he is already doing - put some slack into the aft stay, connect the forestay to the chain plate and then re-adjust the rigging. This way the rigging *should* be exactly the same as adjusted by the rigger in MDR. Just my 2 cents worth....

November 4, 2008 at 7:44 AM  
Blogger Mouse on a Motorcycle said...

I'm touched and impressed by the amount of faith expressed here in support of "our" boy. Near as I can tell, Zac has Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, New-Age'ers and more, all appealing to the Master of the Universe to hold Intrepid in His hand. Prayers are rising in English, Hebrew, Latin, and Spanish at least. I'm sure there are more, so I'm not leaving anyone out.

G-d loves Zac, and His will will be done.

@ Laffing Dawg
Paul is, of course, an example to believers everywhere, but he was a Rabbi, not a sailor. Let's not have Zac be too much like Paul. After all, didn't Paul wreck 3 ships in less than ten years? ;-)

@ Daveh
Thanks for your eloquence and sharing your experience. I'm not so nice when I get argumentative. As a wise woman once told me, "If you can't say anything nice, say it in Yiddish!"

Mouse in Whittier
Praying still Numbers 6:24-26
Mouse in Whittier
www.myspace.com/mouseonamotorcycle

November 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM  
Blogger Daveh said...

@ Douglas Pristone

Thanks much, I read the blog almost every day, I say almost because some days, I just don’t have the time, but then catch up on it later… I actually downloaded it to my blackberry on a recent trip and caught up on a flight…

Interestingly, some of the posts that are negative, they change when eMails are exchange, sometimes… As was with “Perplexed”… We exchanged a few nice eMails, agree here, disagree there, they way it should be vs. arguing… We all have a right to share our opinion and observations, with reasonably rational and polite discord, kind of an oxymoron, but a meaningful one…

Life is risky, so risky, you ain’t getting’ out alive…

I would hate for my son to want to do this type of trip, truly, but if he said; “Dad, I really want to do this, and I can do this, and I’m 100% up for it”… Then off he goes, after much preparation and of course, intrepidation.

Thanks to you, and thanks to everyone here, pros and cons alike… But mostly, Thanks to Laurence, Marianne, and Zac for letting us live this dream, that has had some nightmarish moments for sure, but such is life right?

One of my favorite quotes is – “we are not human beings have a spiritual experience, but spiritual beings having a human experience…” And Zac is certainly living a very full “human experience” already at 16.

My he be protected and safe is what we all want, even a naysayer, they want him safe too, we need to remember that…

Daveh & Skipper

November 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An update soon? Please . . .

November 4, 2008 at 8:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can we get his coordinates?? I'm estimating 4 days worth - he should be getting pretty close now...

He is going to have stressful days that's for sure - it's a sailor's likfe! There are many sailors out there dealing with this all the time - we just don't hear or know about them!

You're doing great Zac! Hang in there~!

November 4, 2008 at 9:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to comment on the examples Daveh gave about 16 year olds. While 16yr old are great kids and can accomplish a lot, it is utterly wrong to send them to war (see e.g. UN resolution 1539). And so you cannot use that as an argument to what 16 year old can do or should do.

But I do believe that the Sunderlands have prepared Zac's journey at their best abilities and their experience and knowledge allowed them to do that. It is always a risk when you send kind out whether to school or around the world, but you prepare them for traffic or for whatever they have to do.

And then another 16yr old is sent out to sea though with a different preparation but also preparing for a completely different journey.

November 4, 2008 at 9:07 AM  
Blogger Mona said...

Daveh and Douglas,
You both always have informative, and thought provoking posts.
Thank you.

Zac,
Hope the seas have settled a bit and you are safely nearing Mauritius.
Stay safe.
Mona
Tucson, AZ

November 4, 2008 at 9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zac,
So sorry to hear of your recent rigging problems but glad that you were able to get in touch with Dad for advice. See, Dad's do come in handy!! I'm sure you and your Dad have a great relationship and this trip is just building it to new levels. You are definately the son of a wise and worldly man that is very proud of you. Actually, there's a whole bunch of us here that are proud of you each and every day. You are always proving to so many people that when the challenges come up you are ready to face them. Good luck to you and we are praying for your continued perserverance and will for your trip. God Bless

ZacPac crew,
You guys/girls are amazing! What a great group of people to come together with such support and insight to Zac's trip. The words of encouragement are always uplifting and positive. The blogs are always fun to read and love to hear from all of you. Keep up the good work and keep on keeping us informed. God bless!
GO VOTE!!
All the best
Terri from Gloucester VA

November 4, 2008 at 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Zac ,have a safe journey.

November 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Zac,
We are truly inspired by your achievement of sailing around the world. You have inspired us with your big dreams and ambitions! We can't believe that you were 16 when you did it and 17 when you came back!!!I wonder if the pirates scared you or not, they would of scared us lots! How was it sailing alone for 13 months?
Well Done for achieving your dreams,
From,
Zoe and Lauren
2 pupils in year 6 from Milton Keynes Long Meadow School

April 21, 2010 at 3:31 AM  

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